Legislature(1995 - 1996)

03/15/1995 09:07 AM Senate FIN

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       SENATE BILL NO. 14                                                      
                                                                               
       "An Act relating to criminal mischief."                                 
                                                                               
  Mary Vollendorf, Legislative Aide to Senator Leman presented                 
  testimony on SB 14. (Testimony attached to minutes.)                         
                                                                               
  Margot  Knuth,   Criminal  Division,   Department  of   Law,                 
  testified the problem has been in the increase  in joyriding                 
  in Anchorage which has doubled in the last two years.   Half                 
  of  those  offenses have  been  committed by  juveniles. The                 
  question is, what can be done to impose meaningful sanction?                 
  The most important  feature of  this bill is  that it  makes                 
  joyriding an  offense for  which driving  privileges can  be                 
  revoked.  This  is expected to  have a deterrent effect  for                 
  juveniles in particular.   It is possible to waive  a multi-                 
  offending juvenile to  adult court  for felony purposes  if,                 
  there was a  desire to  go through the  petition for  waiver                 
  proceeding.    She  noted that  in  47.10.010,  which allows                 
  minors to be prosecuted as an adult in district court, there                 
  is an exception for  felonies.  The  law states that with  a                 
  felony  waiver  provision  there  would   be  no  basis  for                 
  excluding the juveniles.                                                     
                                                                               
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  Senator Donley  asked for  further explanation.   Ms.  Knuth                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  responded that the  criminal mischief statute which,  if the                 
  defendant has caused more than $500 damage, is a felony.  In                 
  a  juvenile,  prosecution  would  go  through  Family  Youth                 
  Services.  Or, file  the petition for waiver to  adult court                 
  under the separate  offense of  criminal mischief, which  is                 
  taking  the vehicle  and  causing more  than  $500 worth  of                 
  damage.    That  is separate  from  joyriding  which doesn't                 
  involve any damage to the vehicle.   That is one way to  get                 
  to adult court with the juvenile, the other is through theft                 
  rather than joyriding.                                                       
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley asked how  the court system  will allow this                 
  since a specific statute says, "if they steal a car and they                 
  are under 18, it is not a felony."  Ms. Knuth responded that                 
  the state does  not have a  strong desire to be  prosecuting                 
  these cases as felons.  It is  expensive.  The case needs to                 
  go to the grand jury and in those cases they are going to be                 
  litigated more vigorously. The state prefers that in dealing                 
  with juveniles, it  is made a misdemeanor in district court,                 
  which  would be handled in  a more routine  way.  She stated                 
  that for over 99% of the joyriding cases with juveniles, the                 
  state does not want  them as felons, but rather  in district                 
  court.                                                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger wanted to understand how the bill was drafted                 
  and  drew attention  to section 1  and 3.   Ms. Knuth stated                 
  that  those  under  18 years  of  age  would  not appear  in                 
  district court as  an adult.  She stated that  in section 3,                 
  it specifies that  18 or older  for this offense before  the                 
  mandatory 3 day jail sentence would apply.  If under the age                 
  of  18,   sentencing  could  be  applied  to   a  period  of                 
  incarceration, but would not be in  jail with adults.  There                 
  is no mandatory  sentence for juvenile offenders.   She went                 
  on to say that there are  two processes available when there                 
  is a juvenile.   One, is going through the  juvenile process                 
  system, and the other is being waived to adult court.   If a                 
  juvenile  had been  waived to  adult court  for  a joyriding                 
  offense and it was the second offense, they would be treated                 
  as a felon.  But, there  would be a special arduous petition                 
  for a  waiver process  where this  state has  the burden  of                 
  proving that the juvenile is not amenable to treatment, etc.                 
  Most of the  joyriding offenders  under the age  of 18  have                 
  been going through  the juvenile  process.  They  do not  go                 
  into  district  court,  but  rather  superior  court.    The                 
  proceedings are  closed and  does not result  in a  criminal                 
  conviction on their record.  The only way to  get a criminal                 
  conviction  is  if there  was a  petition  for waiver.   She                 
  stated that it is  unlikely that a juvenile would  be waived                 
  to adult court on a single joyriding offense.                                
                                                                               
  Co-chair Frank joined the committee.                                         
                                                                               
  Senator  Zharoff  asked the  definition  of joyriding.   Ms.                 
  Knuth responded that  joyriding is  referred to as  criminal                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  mischief.    Statute  11.46.484(a)(2)  states,  "the  person                 
  drives,  tows  away,  or  takes  the  propelled  vehicle  of                 
  another".   This is  distinguished from theft  because it is                 
  not required to prove an intent of permanently depriving the                 
  owner of the vehicle.                                                        
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley  questioned the  fiscal impact  on juveniles                 
  since there is  no room within  the jail facilities at  this                 
  time.  Ms. Knuth responded that  there is no anticipation to                 
  give the juveniles  time to serve for the joyriding offense.                 
  Hence, it's a  property offense, it is likely to  be a first                 
  offense and the sentence would probably be  a suspended term                 
  with  an  order of  restitution,  and revocation  of driving                 
  privileges.  She  clarified "restitution"  by stating  that,                 
  12.55.045(e)  specifies,"If  a  defendant  is  convicted  of                 
  criminal mischief in  the third  degree in  violation of  AS                 
  11.46.484(a)(2), and the victim of the offense incurs damage                 
  or  loss as a  result of the offense,  the court shall order                 
  the  defendant  to pay  restitution."   She  added,  that it                 
  applies to juveniles as well as adults.                                      
                                                                               
  Senator Donley wanted  to know  if there was  a fiscal  note                 
  from the Department  of Corrections?   He said,  there is  a                 
  statement that says the court system  expects 450 cases.  If                 
  this  bill  is  to send  a  message  to  the juveniles  that                 
  joyriding  is  no   longer  going  to  be   tolerated,  then                 
  incarceration for repeat  offenders when not  imposed, makes                 
  the bill pointless. He  then stressed that if the  intent is                 
  not to incarcerate, even though  there has been a conviction                 
  of a misdemeanor, what is the impact on the juvenile system?                 
   Ms.  Knuth   responded  that   Senator  Donley's   question                 
  presupposes that  the system is  not working.   She stressed                 
  there are not many repeat offenders  or those that abuse the                 
  probation  system.  In  order   to  get  to  the   point  of                 
  incarceration,  the offender is a repeater, or has failed to                 
  comply  with  the  conditions of  probation.  Most joyriding                 
  incidences  are  a single  event.    Joyriding  is  not  the                 
  starting offense that leads people down the path of criminal                 
  acts.                                                                        
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Halford  stated  simply  that  he  disagreed  with                 
  everything Ms. Knuth just stated.   Senator Donley says that                 
  the information that  he has received from  his constituents                 
  is that these  are repeat offenders  and they are not  being                 
  treated seriously.                                                           
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger asked for an  explanation of restitution with                 
  or without the bill.  Ms. Knuth responded that if the matter                 
  is handled as  a juvenile proceeding,  none of the  criminal                 
  code applies.   Restitution  does not  apply, revocation  of                 
  driving privileges does not apply, and appearing in front of                 
  a judge does  not apply.   These offenders  will receive  an                 
  adult  conviction,  they  will  go  before  the  judge  with                 
  possible  consequences of:  pay restitution,  suspended jail                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  sentence, loose  their driving  privileges, permanent  funds                 
  dividends  can   be  attached   for  the   payment  of   the                 
  restitution.  These are not  consequences experienced in the                 
  past.  There are  too many juveniles to go  through superior                 
  court petitions.   The problem is the  exploding population.                 
  District court is  uniquely set  up to process  cases in  an                 
  efficient manner.                                                            
                                                                               
  Co-chair  Frank  asked  if  there  are statistics  regarding                 
  repeat offenders?  Donna Schultz, Juvenile Probation Officer                 
  youth had been charged with  criminal mischief.  Those  with                 
  prior  offenses totalled  12.  Statewide  joyriders totalled                 
  2400, 1200 of those are juvenile  offenders and 600 are from                 
  the Anchorage.  Joyriding is  a crime  of opportunity.   She                 
  stated that joyriding has doubled in two years.                              
                                                                               
  Co-chair Halford inquired how the municipality of  Anchorage                 
  is handling joyriders  now.  Ms.  Knuth responded that as  a                 
  misdemeanor offense Anchorage  has a similar statute  to our                 
  criminal mischief for  adult joyriding offenses.   Anchorage                 
  cases number 600 a year. Co-chair  asked how the decision is                 
  made  to prosecute under  municipal ordinance  versus state?                 
  Ms.  Knuth  said that  if  the  municipality has  a  statute                 
  regarding the crime and prosecutors to handle the case, they                 
  will take it on.  This is not true for all municipalities.                   
                                                                               
                                                                               
  Co-chair Halford directed  attention to  page 1, section  1,                 
  line 5. What  would the effect  be on changing  the word  of                 
  "or" to "and"?  Ms. Knuth responded  that it would take  the                 
  second offender juvenile and  made it a felony.   She stated                 
  that if this bill does not have an effect on joyriding, then                 
  something else needs to  be tried.  However, this bill  is a                 
  big step forward.                                                            
                                                                               
  Ms.  Knuth  reported  that  the  "Use  It/Loose  It"  was  a                 
  legislative  measure passed  last  year targeting  juveniles                 
  drinking.  This has  proven to be effective.   Juveniles are                 
  going  to  the same  parties  in  Juneau, and  now  they are                 
  drinking root beer instead of beer  because they do not want                 
  to loose  their driving licenses.   There have  been similar                 
  reports from around the state.  The threat of jail has never                 
  been a deterrent, probably because like other criminals they                 
  think they are not  going to be caught.  With  "Use It/Loose                 
  It", we have a much higher catch rate.                                       
                                                                               
  Senator Donley stated that he  supports the bill.   However,                 
  he does not want others to get  the wrong message.  There is                 
  no fiscal note  from the  Department of Corrections  because                 
  they assume no juveniles will be incarcerated.  It becomes a                 
  self-fulfilling  prophecy  because  if they  don't  add  any                 
  facilities to deal  with this, the  judges have no place  to                 
  send  the  juveniles,  so they  in  turn  are  not going  to                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  incarcerate  them.  Restitution is  a good step forward, but                 
  the  public  should not  think this  is  going to  mean that                 
  juveniles are going to serve hard time for this because they                 
  are not going to have any place to send them.                                
                                                                               
  Senator  Donley  made  a  motion  to MOVE  CSSB14(JUD)  with                 
  individual recommendations and accompanying fiscal notes. No                 
  objection having been raised,  CSSB14(JUD) was REPORTED  OUT                 
  of  committee  with  the following  fiscal  notes:  Dept. of                 
  Public  Safety/Dept.  Motor  Vehicles,  $96.4; Dept.  Public                 
  Safety/Troopers,   zero;   Dept.   of   Corrections,   zero;                 
  Department  of Law,  $81.7; Court  System, $55.0.  Co-chairs                 
  Halford  and  Frank  along with  Senators  Rieger  and Sharp                 
  signed with  a "do  pass".   Senators  Zharoff and  Phillips                 
  signed with "no recommendation".                                             
                                                                               
                                                                               

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